tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26741618.post7635587279718997828..comments2024-02-28T02:22:20.886-08:00Comments on homunculus: Philip Ballhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09986655706443117158noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26741618.post-27325602804404199502008-03-21T01:56:00.000-07:002008-03-21T01:56:00.000-07:00I do not know for certain what is going on as I do...I do not know for certain what is going on as I do not have all the information.<BR/><BR/>However I can suggest what might be going on and this should be eliminated as a mechanism before thoughts turn to some sort of radiofrequency electrolysis.<BR/><BR/>I believe what may be happening is that an inductively coupled plasma is being generated at the surface of the liquid. Tiny amounts of ions are entering the gas phase and are then accelerated backwards and forwards in the electric field, gaining energy, ionizing the water vapor and eventually dissociating the water. The dissociated water forms hydrogen and oxygen gas on cooling and this is what is burning.<BR/><BR/>Such a plasma is well known as part of ICP-AES and ICP-MS analytical devices where they use argon gas (with a few initial ions provided by a spark). But it should work for water vapor so long as there are some ions in the gas phase.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps the initial gas phase ions get there from small gas bubbles rising to the surface and bursting.<BR/><BR/>Clearly less energy is got out than put in (whatever the mechanism) but that does not mean that this phenomena is any less interesting or potentially useful.Martin Chaplinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12605293796604711316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26741618.post-43558596795294737892008-03-19T08:13:00.000-07:002008-03-19T08:13:00.000-07:00"Roy...has collaborated with Kanzius to investigat..."Roy...has collaborated with Kanzius to investigate the effect."<BR/><BR/>Surely, the whole point of reproducibility is that another scientist is able to validate someone's results independently.<BR/><BR/>dbDave Bradleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06584334163347398116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26741618.post-33541836479116454472008-03-17T12:55:00.000-07:002008-03-17T12:55:00.000-07:00Gosh, I wish I had a spectrometer, I guess Roy et ...Gosh, I wish I had a spectrometer, I guess Roy et al must be saving up to finish their spectral analysis. As soon as the money is available, they'll be extending the uv/vis spectrum into the regions were oxy-hydrogen flames have their emission spectra:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://repository.kulib.kyoto-u.ac.jp/dspace/bitstream/2433/46190/1/rpcjpnv13np096.pdf" REL="nofollow">some non-US research</A><BR/><BR/>And to think that Roy et al (hi al) have two spectrometers; One measures the amount of Raman shift between two samples, and as soon as their boat comes in, they will measure the frequency shift rather than the intensity shift !!!JimmyGirohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01548795180321590463noreply@blogger.com